JEANS UK : Consumers are the loser in a Strasbourg ruling stopping Tesco supermarketsselling cut-price Levi Strauss jeans.The UK supermarket lost the latest round in its fight with the US companyafter a ruling by the EU Court of Justice on Tueday."The court ruled that goods from outside the ADVERTISEMENTEuropean economic area cannot be imported without the unequivocable consentof the trademark owner, and we think that is the right decision," saidLevi's Europe chief.The decision is the latest in the long running and very costly legal sagabetween the two companies. Tesco believes it should have the right to sellLevi jeans at knock down prices whereas the jeans manufacturer argues it hasturned down the supermarket as an approved stockist.Levi sells its products through 17,000 selected outlets across Europe,chosen for good customer service argues the company, price rigging argue itspro-consumer opponents.The jeans company, famous for its iconographic 501 line, believe the rulingwill allow them to preserve the quality of its brand.
JEANS UK : "This definitive legal decision enables us to continue doing what we dobest - making and marketing the world's best recognised jeans," said JoeMiddleton, Levi Strauss Europe president. "We have always maintained that wehave the right to decide the way in which we distribute our products to bestserve our customers, and the court has confirmed that right."Consumer representatives had supported the Tesco case hoping that a winwould lead to lower prices in the high street."We are looking for a Tesco win because it would be good for consumers. Theywould then get access to branded goods at reasonable prices," said theConsumers Association.Absolutely idiotic. Next companies are going to take eBayers to court forselling products at less than retail value.If you have something, surely it's up to you how much you sell it for..whether you're Joe Public or Tesco's.I think the argument is about how much Tesco's are allowed to buy and importthe goods for, rather than how much they are allowed to sell them for. Butstill, a monumentally stupid law. The root of the problem being that Levicharge a far higher wholesale price in Europe, with the flimsiest ofjustification.
JEANS UK : They are clearly taking the piss out of their own customers, and if there isany justice they will suffer the Ratner effect. But there isn't so theyprobably won't.No doubt soon we will see people strutting out of approved Levi's dealers intheir underwear, claiming to be wearing denim so fine that only those withmore money than sense can see it.--Morello Publishing LtdPuzzleTrack - create your own word search and crossword puzzlesOn Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:25:45 -0000, "Peter Cooper" wrote:I thought there was not supposed to be price fixing. isn't that ineffect what levi are doing?Levi can decide whether they wish to supply Tesco or not.But it they decide not, currently tesco can go out into the marketand buy the product from whatever third party they like *if* that thirdpartyis in the EU, but they can't buy it from a third party outside of the EU.
JEANS UK : A return, maybe, to the post W.W.II era of 'Spivs' and 'Wide-Boys"?(Barrow-Boys) Joking aside why buy Levis (or any denim) anyway? Expensive, not that comfortable and being cotton can be very cold whenwet! BTW The Chinese make some pretty good cotton work pants! Reasonableprice too at Wal Mart!But can you visualize some youngster flaunting his/her "Chairman Mao's"! So much for a 'Consumer driven' society! That is a weird one. I'm really puzzled? My thought was that once the goods left the factory door and movedthrough the various levels of sale and distribution it was up to eachvendor in the process to make a profit or a loss? I might sell, say Levi's, at a loss (not likely but a possibility) inorder to get more customers into my stores to sell them other productson which to make a handsome profit. Also, if I was a store owner, say and someone called me up and said theyhad x pairs of jeans that they had overbought, couldn't sell etc. andwould I like to buy them at a bargain for resale, is there anythingwrong with that? Is that not what keeps prices and services competitive? Come to think of it maybe that's what's wrong? Price control!Wow, what a thought. I d don't think I'll buy anything I don't reallyneed; come to think of it I don't buy much of what I don't need now!Cheers.
JEANS UK : I am sure that this has been asked before and I have searched through thisnewgroup for an answers but I couldn't find one so here I am asking this ageold question.....................how come when i create a game my brothercannot 'see' my server. He is on the internet, so am i, we both have ZArunning and I think that we have added each others IP address to ZA.Is there something else that we should be doing so that we can play againsteach other online but hosted on my PC?? We both have the most recentversions of HL and CS and he has added my ip address into game serverscreen. Is it something to do with ports - he is trying to connect to 27015,should this be 27016 because i have not set up my pc a dedicated server - iwant to play him and host the game at the same time.---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system ().Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 09/10/01I have been testing a dedicated server for people in this group now for thelast couple of weeks - and with ZA running not only do I sometimes haveproblems connecting - the server itself lags badly..
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